Pre Majin Vegeta vs SPC

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Pre Majin Vegeta vs SPC
Tweet Topic Started: Dec 11 2013, 02:37 AM (1,664 Views)
Zenet	Dec 11 2013, 02:37 AM Post #1
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Who wins.



SSJ	Dec 11 2013, 04:26 AM Post #2
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Good fight. This is a battle that I would give to Cell 6/10 times. They are arguably even in power, and it's even possible to consider Vegeta being more powerful. However, Cell's regeneration can preserve his life, and he also has a wide array of attacks at his disposal. Sure Vegeta has the advantage in ki amping, but Cell would never let him charge a Final Flash. Vegeta is going to have to be really tricky if he wants to win. Edited by SSJ, Dec 11 2013, 04:26 AM.



+ Emmeth	Dec 11 2013, 04:40 AM Post #3
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Piccolo couldn't tell if Majin Vegeta was stronger than Gohan, and Vegeta got a pretty good power boost from the Majin Spell. I'd say Vegeta still is pretty close to Cell, but due to Cell's regen and obvious technique advantage, he takes it.
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Crow	Dec 11 2013, 06:21 AM Post #4
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	Yeah it is a good fight, I'd say vegeta wins, but really it could go either way with cells regen and abilities. Though vegeta would have the upper hand in power.



EMIYA	Dec 11 2013, 01:20 PM Post #5
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	At best I have Vegeta rivaling Cell, so at most it would be relatively equal and thus with Cell and those equality battles, he's going to have the advantage due to techniques, skills and what not. Edited by EMIYA, Dec 11 2013, 01:20 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Dec 11 2013, 04:43 PM Post #6
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Cell wins easily: Cell: 7,500,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 6,400,000,000
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Warrior-Elite	Dec 11 2013, 04:49 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,360 Group: Member Member #4,528 Joined: October 18, 2009 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga N/A	I place Vegeta just marginally above SPC, but SPC makes up with his techniques thats why cell is such a damn good villain. Still the fight could go either way
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SuperSaiyan1993	Dec 11 2013, 06:44 PM Post #8
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	We have an uncontradicted statement from Piccolo that Majin Vegeta is not that different from SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Majin Vegeta > SSJ2 Kid Gohan (not that big of a difference) Vegeta wouldn't sell his free will and accept another's help for a low gain. He also attributed SSJ2 Kid Gohan as the comparing standard of power when analyzing SSJ2 Goku's power. You can try to argue that SSJ2 Pre-Majin Vegeta is on SPC/SSJ2 Kid Gohan's realm of power but there are no feats that SSJ2 Pre Majin Vegeta has (or even an appearance) that would support this. All we have Piccolo's statement and Vegeta's semi-statement, but there is absolutely nothing aruging for Pre-Majin Vegeta's power being equal/superior to SSJ2 Kid Gohan except fan inferences. For these reasons, I have: SSJ2 Majin Vegeta > SSJ2 Kid Gohan >= SPC > SSJ2 Pre-majin Vegeta Edited by SuperSaiyan1993, Dec 11 2013, 06:45 PM.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 11 2013, 06:54 PM Post #9
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I think in power Cell got this,I have a big one Majin boost,so I think Cell takes it in all ways
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Zenet	Dec 12 2013, 03:28 AM Post #10
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	I think Vegeta wins this both being equal but his skill is greater than Cell.



Hearts	Dec 12 2013, 09:39 AM Post #11
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Chapter 451: Vegeta: All im saying is that Dabura isnt as tough as you made him out to be. Beside his spit, he isnt that impressive, judging from his movements and attacks. Kibito was just clumsy. Kaioshin: Is that true Goku? Goku: Yeah. Well, even if that wasnt his true strength he would have been a strong opponent a while ago, but... Seven years ago we fought Cell, Dabura is probably at about the same power level. Along the whole Babidi arc, Goku and Vegeta look down on Dabura, Dabura is as strong as Cell, we dont know if he means SP Cell or just the perfect one. So lets try some quick thinking SSJ Gohan = 70 Cell = 100 SSJ2 Gohan = 140 SP Cell = 140 Dabura = 100 then Vegeta is at least = 120 But i got the feeling that Goku and Vegeta were way above him, not just a measly 1.2x difference, I got the feeling that Goku = 220 Vegeta = 200 Majin Vegeta = 220 So i put Vegeta several levels above Cell



+ Pyrus	Dec 12 2013, 09:51 AM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Hearts Dec 12 2013, 09:39 AM Chapter 451: Vegeta: All im saying is that Dabura isnt as tough as you made him out to be. Beside his spit, he isnt that impressive, judging from his movements and attacks. Kibito was just clumsy. Kaioshin: Is that true Goku? Goku: Yeah. Well, even if that wasnt his true strength he would have been a strong opponent a while ago, but... Seven years ago we fought Cell, Dabura is probably at about the same power level. Along the whole Babidi arc, Goku and Vegeta look down on Dabura, Dabura is as strong as Cell, we dont know if he means SP Cell or just the perfect one. So lets try some quick thinking SSJ Gohan = 70 Cell = 100 SSJ2 Gohan = 140 SP Cell = 140 Dabura = 100 then Vegeta is at least = 120 But i got the feeling that Goku and Vegeta were way above him, not just a measly 1.2x difference, I got the feeling that Goku = 220 Vegeta = 200 Majin Vegeta = 220 So i put Vegeta several levels above Cell Piccolo disagrees, you beautiful little cupcake.
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Hearts	Dec 12 2013, 12:21 PM Post #13
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Darth Pyrus Dec 12 2013, 09:51 AM Hearts Dec 12 2013, 09:39 AM Chapter 451: Vegeta: All im saying is that Dabura isnt as tough as you made him out to be. Beside his spit, he isnt that impressive, judging from his movements and attacks. Kibito was just clumsy. Kaioshin: Is that true Goku? Goku: Yeah. Well, even if that wasnt his true strength he would have been a strong opponent a while ago, but... Seven years ago we fought Cell, Dabura is probably at about the same power level. Along the whole Babidi arc, Goku and Vegeta look down on Dabura, Dabura is as strong as Cell, we dont know if he means SP Cell or just the perfect one. So lets try some quick thinking SSJ Gohan = 70 Cell = 100 SSJ2 Gohan = 140 SP Cell = 140 Dabura = 100 then Vegeta is at least = 120 But i got the feeling that Goku and Vegeta were way above him, not just a measly 1.2x difference, I got the feeling that Goku = 220 Vegeta = 200 Majin Vegeta = 220 So i put Vegeta several levels above Cell Piccolo disagrees, you beautiful little cupcake. Goku says Cell is weak compared to how they are now, Piccolo says that Vegeta is equal, so in that case, how much stronger than Vegeta is Goku at this point? :P



+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 12 2013, 01:30 PM Post #14
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Hearts Dec 12 2013, 09:39 AM Chapter 451: Vegeta: All im saying is that Dabura isnt as tough as you made him out to be. Beside his spit, he isnt that impressive, judging from his movements and attacks. Kibito was just clumsy. Kaioshin: Is that true Goku? Goku: Yeah. Well, even if that wasnt his true strength he would have been a strong pponent a while ago, but... Seven years ago we fought Cell, Dabura is probably at about the same power level. Along the whole Babidi arc, Goku and Vegeta look down on Dabura, Dabura is as strong as Cell, we dont know if he means SP Cell or just the perfect one. So lets try some quick thinking SSJ Gohan = 70 Cell = 100 SSJ2 Gohan = 140 SP Cell = 140 Dabura = 100 then Vegeta is at least = 120 But i got the feeling that Goku and Vegeta were way above him, not just a measly 1.2x difference, I got the feeling that Goku = 220 Vegeta = 200 Majin Vegeta = 220 So i put Vegeta several levels above Cell Dabura fought equally with a weak verion of SSj Gohan,that Gohan is at most on Gokus CG level and he was equal to Dabura,there's no way Dabura is on FPPC level,we also have prove for the manga that Gohan was a SSj According to Piccolo,the power difference bettwen SSj2 Majin Vegeta and SSj2 Kid Gohan was barely noticeable,you can out it at 1.1x times and that's that As for topic power wise they should be equal,But Cells regelation,skills and etc will again give him victory,cell takes 6/10 times
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EMIYA	Dec 12 2013, 06:00 PM Post #15
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	I don't know how anyone can have Pre-Majin Vegeta significantly above the likes of SSJ2 Kid Gohan/SPC. I mean you got Piccolo's implication that Majin Vegeta isn't too far ahead of SSj2 Kid Gohan. You've Pre-Majin Vegeta even weaker than an SSJ2 burst Goku who wasn't using his full power. You've got Vegeta coming up to a Gohan he knows has been severely lacking in his training and gotten weaker and still wonders what kind of gap there is between them. He's constantly praising Kid Gohan's power, calling him far far stronger as a kid than he is now. I'm constantly looking through quotes and I can't find a single thing that implies Pre-Majin Vegeta's superiority. The best I see is a potential rivalry. This is even more obvious when Vegeta doesn't say that Goku has surpassed Gohan until their fight. You'd think if Goku had surpassed Gohan earlier, this would've been noted then and not later. This is Goku going at full power and its only then that its noted that he's surpassed his son. So by that implication I can easily see it as SSj2 Goku (Full Power)>SSj2 Kid Gohan>SSj2 Goku (Burst)>SSJ2 Pre-Majin Vegeta Edited by EMIYA, Dec 12 2013, 06:00 PM.



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